Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Thursday, February 02, 2006

More visibility to a post by Rev 2:17

I have taken the liberty to here transpose a post by Revelation 2:17 from the Bible Studies
As suggested by Redeemed, posting on the front page of the blog gets more attention.Comments are welcome.P.S. Am back in Montreal, but haven't had time to brief you all. Will do so asap.
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The "deep" in the Bible sometimes refers to a great body of water beyond the heavens, sort of in space and beyond it.
It is associated with the earth when God jammed everything up in

Genesis 1:2
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

We read

Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

A flood also came in from outer-space. There's no way those windows are clouds. The Bible describes clouds and the evaporation cycle a number of times, never like this. Besides, it seems there were no clouds and rain on the pre-Noah's flood earth.


Genesis 8:2 The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;

Now

Job 38:30 The waters are hid as with a stone, and the face of the deep is frozen.

What ocean do you know with a frozen surface?????????????????????????
This is a frozen firmament in space. This is that sea of glass you read about in


Revelation 15:1 And I saw another sign in heaven, great and marvellous, seven angels having the seven last plagues; for in them is filled up the wrath of God.
:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.


God, speaking about Satan as Leviathan says to Job

Job 41:31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot: he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
:32 He maketh a path to shine after him; one would think the deep to be hoary.



Hoary means white or whitish.

When's the last time you saw a white ocean? The Mediterranean sea is called the Great White Sea. I see it everyday, it ain't white.


This is not upon earth,,, no LochNess monster here my friends, this is in the waters above your heads, the waters of

Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

Those are they spoken of in

Psalm 148:4 Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens.

HeavenS is plural, this is no water in the sky.

And note that Psalms are AFTER Noah's flood. There are still waters above the heavens today.

Leviathan, Satan, leaves a blazing WHITE path behind his serpentine trail through space. Milky Way, anyone?

Having shuffled through Peter Ruckman's outstanding commentary on Job, I leaned back thinking upon the Bible. Suddenly the answer to something I had wondered about in Luke 8 flashed in my mind. I was confused about the 2 following verses dealing with the demon-possessed "Legion"


Luke 8:30 And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.
:31 And they besought him that he would not command them to go out into the deep.


and

Luke 8:33 Then went the devils out of the man, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the lake, and were choked.

The devils feared the deep (supposedly ocean), yet they rush into water moments later!
Why would they fear the deep but not the lake (Mark calls it a sea)?

I think those evils besought Jesus not to be sent "out into"(v.31) space. They feared being sent into the deep of heaven, as in "deep space". It wasn't so much the water they feared; in fact devils have an affinity for water as can be gathered from the Bible.
Why they feared being commanded to go "out into" the deep in space I can't tell;
most simply maybe, because demons seek embodiement of flesh; what would they embody in space? Who knows, there might be other more terrible reasons.

There is so much more to see between Job and Genesis.

What a great book that King James Bible

9 Comments:

  1. Matthew Celestine said...
    I am glad to hear you got back safely.

    Interesting stuff.

    There is a self-appointed Bible teacher by the name of James Lloyd who holds that the bottomless pit is outer space.

    The problem with that view is that means Jesus Christ will come out of the bottomless pit on His return to earth!

    I think deep in the context of the devils is more likely an subterranian location tahn an astral one.

    The spirit of Samuel came up from the ground. Christ descended into the lower parts of the earth (hell - which is opposite Abraham's Bosom or Paradise Luke 16:23).

    Every Blessing in Christ

    Matthew

    Every Blessing in Christ

    Matthew
    Revelation 2:17 said...
    Consecrated, I republished the post as you can see. Next time, simply click on the "html" tag on the upper right of the post, next to "compose" and copy the post in its html format, then paste it whatever of our blogs you want and publish it.

    Dyspraxic Fundamentalist, good to see your picture.

    We are agreed on Christ, he descended both into hell and Abraham's bosom.

    I don't know that the earth or the inside thereof is ever called
    "the deep", in the Bible.

    Concerning the episode between Saul and the woman of Endor, we would have to establish that the "gods" are the same as the "devils". Moreover those "gods" SEEM to have some degree of freedom in going into and out of the earth.

    Of course, my point of view concerning the meaning of "the deep" in Luke 8 claims nothing dogmatic.

    As for the bottomless pit, that's a great reply. Besides, biblically we have the verses to safely locate it within the earth.

    I've been wondering whether this bottomless pit at the center of the earth serves, itself as the "great gulf" fixed between hell and Abraham's bosom.
    Any thoughts?
    Matthew Celestine said...
    Good thought about the bottomless pit. Maybe!

    Thanks for replying.

    God Bless

    Matthew
    Consecrated said...
    You have reminded me of the passage in Mathew 12:43 "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none. 44 Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished. 45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation."

    I wonder who these "unclean spirits" are. They are not fallen angels, I would think. That would support the notion that demons are spirits of the giants of old.
    Matthew Celestine said...
    I totally agree with devils being the spirits of the Nephilm adn Rephaim.

    Angels have bodies and do not posses people.

    Angels are powerful and mighty beings, not cowardly spirits.

    Every Blessing in Christ

    Matthew
    Consecrated said...
    Thanks Mathew.
    I will have to visit your blog soon. Lots to catch up. Still brooding over my next post. You should hear from me soon (hopefully).Problem is I need a new computer. The one at home is becoming too slow for me.
    Matthew Celestine said...
    The computer in my bedroom/ study/library/ office is pretty slow. I like to use my parents' computer when they are out, as it is much faster.

    God Bless

    Matthew
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